The Air Force recommended during Trump's final days in office basing Space Command in Alabama.
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Biden administration reverses Trump decision to relocate US Space Command
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Tuberville clearly doesn't have the cognitive ability to connect dots. Literally or figuratively.
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It's breathtaking how Republicans can do something shady and when they are called on it, they just accuse their accuser of the exact thing they were doing. Every time, no matter how obviously stupid it is, like mindless drones with bad programming.
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Lmao in between the Air Force academy, NORAD command, and the shocking reduction in quality of life for most service members, this had to be like top 10 military related dumb ideas trump had, and that’s saying something. Huntsville could be a good location for the space force, it just isn’t one now.
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Placing military installations in states that have laws which adversely affect forces personnel or their family members is likely to make forces personnel less keen to serve at those installations - which may affect readiness. Unsurprisingly the armed forces don't seem to want that to happen.
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Because when the Democrats turn around and accuse them of it because they're actually doing it, it'll look like sour grapes by the Democrats to low information voters.
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It was moved there from Egypt. It could be moved anywhere. Or the one in Russia could be moved to Colorado. It's all a matter of what the script writers need this week.
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Reactionary projection. Its not hard to see why it works when they couple the talking points with religious fervor, and fear of the other.
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So, I'm not going to dox myself, but I played, and am playing, a role in the environmental planning for this decision. And I will say that very suddenly, the decision-making became very opaque, very quiet, and very much did not include many of us who had been involved up to that point. And suddenly, the two bases that a reasonable person would flag as the front-runners were not in the running at all. I certainly drew my own conclusions from this, but must disclaim that I have no firsthand knowledge of how that decision was made and who made it for what official or unofficial reasons, so I can mostly infer to a high degree of confidence. And I merely share my personal impressions here; I do not characterize here any official position or speak for anyone's opinion but my own.
Keeping it in COS is a no-brainer. It's already home to two USSF field commands, many operations units, much of the satellite command and control infrastructure,, and thousands of USSF and USAF active duty and civilians. Putting it in Alabama made sense only to a certain type of political thinker.
Keeping it in COS is a no-brainer. It's already home to two USSF field commands, many operations units, much of the satellite command and control infrastructure,, and thousands of USSF and USAF active duty and civilians. Putting it in Alabama made sense only to a certain type of political thinker.
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The article touched on it a little, but for those not well versed in this stuff:
Space Force is the space equivalent of what the Air Force is for air power and the Navy for sea power.
Space Command is the space equivalent Central Command, which is the chain of command authority for all all military operations in the Middle East, and some other parts of Central and or South Asia.
The Air Force trains and maintains fighters, bombers, transport, etc. but if actually engaging in combat in, Iraq, for instance, an individual Air Force unit operates under the orders of Central Command.
An example for space might be that Navy Aegis destroyers can carry anti-satellite missiles. They operate as part of the Navy, but an order to attack a satellite would come from Space Command to a Navy destroyer that had been tasked to operate under Space Command. An order to retask a satellite might come from Space Command to a Space Force unit responsible for operating that satellite. In the past iterations of Space Command (before Space Force existed), such an order would go to the Air Force unit that operated the satellite.
Space Force is the space equivalent of what the Air Force is for air power and the Navy for sea power.
Space Command is the space equivalent Central Command, which is the chain of command authority for all all military operations in the Middle East, and some other parts of Central and or South Asia.
The Air Force trains and maintains fighters, bombers, transport, etc. but if actually engaging in combat in, Iraq, for instance, an individual Air Force unit operates under the orders of Central Command.
An example for space might be that Navy Aegis destroyers can carry anti-satellite missiles. They operate as part of the Navy, but an order to attack a satellite would come from Space Command to a Navy destroyer that had been tasked to operate under Space Command. An order to retask a satellite might come from Space Command to a Space Force unit responsible for operating that satellite. In the past iterations of Space Command (before Space Force existed), such an order would go to the Air Force unit that operated the satellite.
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greybeardengineer
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Good. Alabama already gets enough space pork from the National Alabama Space Agency.
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Not to mention all the defense contractors that are based there too. I'm sure it's because of the strong industrial base and well-educated population that's available.
Oh wait...
Edit: I mean, Alabama is one of those states we Floridians can point to in order to feel better about our educational system.
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Basically accurate. Organizationally, it's a little like the Marines are part of the Department of the Navy. They carved out Air Force Space Command, renamed Wings into Deltas, reduced the org chart a little (which sounds simple, but it has created issues well into the realm of the absurd), and moved a bunch of Marine, Army, and Navy space units (and installations) under the umbrella. Broadly, its duties are space command and control, maintenance of the Satellite Command Network, space launch (from Cape Cod, Patrick and Vandenberg), early warning, intelligence and reconnaissance, development and deployment of new capabilities, and secret squirrel shit.
Space Command is as you describe.
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The one from Russia IS the one from Egypt. The OG gate got blown up though.
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Clearly you've never been to Huntsville. It is NOT like the rest of the state. It's actually a pretty nice city. We've considered relocating there as there's been a ton of economic opportunity.
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I didn't realize tommy potatotown was from alabama until this article. What is it with dipshits in the senate from alabama? I realize that most senators are dipshits because that's normally a prerequisite, but between shelby and this jizzmop… yeesh.
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Yeah, his characterization of USSPACECOM is accurate. It's the command authority, not the units and missions.
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Potatotown might be the dumbest senator and that's really saying something.
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Oh it must GALL Tuberville to know he cannot really call out the administration over this, since he himself is engaged in a process of damaging military readiness more than this decision ever could if wrong (for the record I think it's right).
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I've been to Huntsville. I won't say you couldn't pay me to live there, but the price would be steep. At least $250k/yr and that's just to maintain it as my primary residence, not to actually do any work.
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Apparently the good Senator believes DoD was, before this very day, an apolitical organization entirely above the political interests of the executive branch.
Bless her dear heart.
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But it's still part of the state, shitty laws and all. Unsurprisingly, troops don't want to move to places where they or their kids have less rights than they currently do. And with enough of those instances, the military can't fill jobs if those jobs are going to be in Alabama.
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I'm so glad I'm not the only person who calls him Potatotown or Tater Town.
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I've been to Huntsville many, many times. I've done work both at the Arsenal and the NASA facility therein.
Yes, there is a few miles around the NASA center that resembles civilization. That sort of thing happens around all the NASA centers. That is not a substitute for having an established industrial infrastructure that exists independent of the NASA facility. Nearly every aerospace company has a presence in LA for a reason. There's a massive industrial base and an enormous talent pool from which to draw. Huntsville is a very inbred place. Sure, there are lots of technically-trained people there, but all of them are already associated with one government-supported contract or another.
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IIRC, the Egypt (OG) gate was moved to the US in the 30s or so.
I forget where Russia got their gate from.
When OG was destroyed, the Antarctic/McMurdo gate was brought online in CO.
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Wasn’t thinking about that aspect, but yeah, in some technical ways Space Force still operates under the Air Force’s umbrella.
To clarify for others, the uniformed military is divided into three “departments” and six “services”.
Department of the Army
Army
Department of the Navy
Navy
Marine Corps
Coast Guard*
Department of the Air Force
Air Force
Space Force
Just for completeness, four of the intelligence services are also under DoD, as follows:
National Security Agency
Defense Intelligence Agency
National Geo-spatial Intelligence Agency
National Reconnaissance Office
*The Coast Guard is normally under the Department of Homeland Security, but if/when Congress moves it under DoD during times of war, it falls under the Department of the Navy. A liaison system between the two is maintained otherwise.
EDIT: And the eleven unified combatant commands are:
Geographic Commands:
Africa
Central (Middle East and parts of Asia)
European
Indo-Pacific
Northern (U.S, Canada, Mexico, Bagamas)
Southern (Central Am, South Am and Caribbean)
Space
Functional Commands:
Cyber
Special Operations
Strategic (strategic nuclear weapons and global strike)
Transport
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Stargate is my favorite of the "Star--" franchises so here we go.
US found Egypt gate (brought by aliens). US finds Antarctica gate (OG gate, built by different aliens). US ditches Egypt gate in ocean. Russia recovers Egypt gate. US uses Antarctica gate. Antarctica gate blows up. US leases Egypt gate from Russia in exchange for spaceships.
ED - Confusions arises because the first gate the heroes found and used is actually the second gate chronologically to exist on Earth.
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And if Redstone and Marshall were to be relocated or closed down for some reason, the last one out would turn off the lights. There's nothing keeping anyone there.
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